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Haters and Lovers are the same by Nacht-Vico Haters and Lovers are the same by Nacht-Vico
There is something fun about a lot of fandom's (and I mean ANY fandom, like Anime/Manga, cartoons, books, anything)
When you have a positive opinion about something, you're all nice and you're expressing "your right to have an opinion".
When you opinion is negative, then you're a heartless hater, you get the "Don't like, don't look" shit, and you can stick your "right to have an opinion" where I think.
It doesn't even matter if you are being polite and open minded, if you don't love something, then you're an hater.
Oh, and it doesn't matter if you a stupid douchebag neither, you can insult people as much as you want, as long as you're a lover, you're cool.

Seriously? Negative and Positive opinions are the same.
Some "lovers"/"haters" will be cool about it and be open-minded. Other "lovers"/"haters" will be fucking annoying about their opinion and the shit they like/hate.
Stop harassing people everytime they have a negative opinion, this is annoying. Most "haters" are just expressing their opinions, just like all the other cool kids saying they like random stuff.

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:iconjustaloverofhumanity:
:iconbravoplz: Ha ha, a lot of anime fans CAN be nuts and closed-minded when it comes to animation. Some idiot on Tumblr even said on Toonami, "Why are there cartoons with it? I only want anime...." It's for both American and Japanese animation, idiots. I apologize for the insanity of the anime fanbase. I've gotten called names because I like anime others don't, because I dislike characters others like, or just because (gasp!) I dislike an anime. What a terrible sin! Seriously, the fans can be nuts. Especially the Hetalia fans. Whew....it's just fiction at the end of the day, guys, nothing to get too serious over.
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The-Queen-Of-Cookies Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh my gosh yes this stamp right here. I have ALWAYS THOUGHT THIS!!!

Thank you... thank you.
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FluffyTigerBunny Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
No one likes everything.
So we are all haters.
And all lovers.
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joshuarmour15 Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
that implies that there are people who care.
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:iconnacht-vico:
Nacht-Vico Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2012
Obviously, yes.
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LordlyCaliber Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
Jeez it's almost like going into a group full of people that like something and declaring you hate it grants you a negative response. Likewise with trying to convince people how great something is when they already hate it. Of course you have the right to express your opinion, even if it is wrong, but that doesn't grant you amnesty from people that don't like what you have to say.
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iamoki Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That is very nearly unreadable.
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Whacked-Out-Inc Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The best kind of opinion to have is slight preference mixed with neutral understanding. Take InuYasha for example. Some people are rabid fans, others are rabid haters. Both have their points in certain regards, but neither group will admit to the points made by the other.
Is it a decent show? Yes.
Is it the best show? Not really.
Can you make a drinking game involving every time "INUYASHA" is shouted? Yes, but you'd be drunk way too soon.

Make sense?
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Nacht-Vico Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012
It makes sense to me, even if I don't know what is Inuyasha xD. Some manga/anime, I guess?
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Whacked-Out-Inc Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Anime. There might be manga out there, but who knows?
If you're going to watch it, try watching the Japanese audio with English subtitles. The English dub is... dreadful.
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flabaflaba123 Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012   General Artist
It was made from the manga. Yeah, it is pretty mediocre, but it was first anime I ever watched, & it was the shit when I was younger.
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Whacked-Out-Inc Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Now there's Death Note, Hellsing, etc.
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RGB64 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012
Rule 15 in a nutshell.
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Nacht-Vico Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012
There is an Internet rule for that? :D
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RGB64 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
Rule 15: The more you hate it, the stronger it gets.
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amurderofcrowws Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Student General Artist
This is great!

Though if you don't mind me saying, you should of put an s on the end of the word count. :)
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Nacht-Vico Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012
Oops. Thanks for telling me, I'll edit it ;)
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amurderofcrowws Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Student General Artist
No worries. :D
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inkstaineddove Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I agree with you so much! In Hetalia, if you don't support X pairing Y pairing will come after you, it's horrible. You could say that about any fandom, though. Which is rather sad.

On a different topic, the writing on the stamps kinda hard to read. If you made it a little bigger, or changed the font, it would be a lot easier to read.
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Nacht-Vico Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012
Agree, I'm not a pairing fan at all, and something people being so immature about it is really boring.

Yeah, I think it's too small too, but I wanted it to be on one frame only, if I make it bigger, I need to animate... I will see what I can do ^^"
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CareBearKidd Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, my gosh, this.

Though, it's not the sane lovers/haters that annoy me. It's the "hardcore" haters who bash super fanatics without realizing just how stupid and hypocritical they sound getting worked up over a fandom.
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dogs-blood Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I can't stand the word "hater" it just bothers me so much every time I hear it.
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Nacht-Vico Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2012
Yeah, me too. That's a dumb word, really.
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Gray-Rose Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I feel the same way! Once I gave a negative opinion on a pairing because it involved a guy who was already married and I don't find it entertaining to watch spouses cheat, and people frowned at me for it. I mean, I can't even not like something in fandom because it's something that's bad for good reason? Come on, fans. I don't see how not liking affairs is a bad thing or makes me a 'hater' really.
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Nacht-Vico Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012
Agree with you, dude. I can't even count the number of time I've been called an hater because I don't like pairings (and I don't. They're almost all boring)... Seriously, freedom of speech! xD
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Gray-Rose Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
No problem :) and I'm a dudette by the way :giggle:. I like pairings and I can see why you don't :roll: Seriously, shipping wars, crack, pairings that involve cheating or abuse, pairings based on fetishism... Some pairings are good and clean, and as a romantic, I still like pairings for that reason, but I agree that it has a dark side which most people avoid for good reason.
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Kelsey-Kat Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012
It depends on what the opinion is about. If its about somebody's artwork, and it is stated in a way that is NOT constructive criticism, there is no point in posting it except to be a douchebag. And yes, tv shows and music count as artwork.

Now, I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed to say "I personally dislike Harry Potter," just that it'd be more purposeful and constructive to say "I really enjoy South Park." However, its just a dick move to say, "The Colbert Report is the most stupid, vile and idiotic show that's ever been made and people who like it are all insane retards."

People use the 'its just an opinion' thing to make there rude behavior acceptable.
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Nacht-Vico Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012
Why is it more constructive to say "I like something" than "I dislike something"? It's the same thing, it's an opinion, the fact that it is postitive or negative doesn't change anything. Saying you hate something without any reason is pretty stupid, but it is stupid as well to say you "OMG LOVE" something without giving any argument.

Actually, I've seen more rude and narrow-minded people on the "lover" side. Some people can be really mean when you don't like their favourite stuff. However, I have the opportunity to discuss with a lot of open-minded "haters". So both side are the same. Some people are able to have a discussion with you, other are just immature brats.
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Kelsey-Kat Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012
Because if it is positive, it will get positive results; ie the artwork improves. However, negatives either don't have any results, or they have negative ones; ie artwork stops and progress isn't made.

Generally, when people love something, they do have reasons and usually they talk about them. For instance, when people love something like the Hunger Games, they talk about he characters they love and why they are so awesome. Of course, depending on where you're expressing your love, you often will just leave it without an explanation, because one isn;t necessary,


If somebody who loves something is being 'mean' to somebody who doesn't like what they do, they are not being positive, they are being negative and a hater, simply of something other than the main subject matter, which I also find unconstructive.
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Nacht-Vico Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012
I kinda get your point, but I still disagree. I've seen way more beautiful and constructed atwork made by people who disliked the main subject than some really horrible stuff (aka badly drawn/written porn, stolen artwork) made by the fans. By drawing/writing about something you don't like, you can also makes something great, and it's always great to have the opportunity to discuss about it.
Someone who don't like Hunger Games (a book, if I'm correct) can talk about it as well as someone who like it. Even if you don't like the main subject, you still can like a few things about it, like one of the characters... Same for people who like something, yet who dislike something about it (as an example, I like that Fullmetal Alchemist books, but I dislike the main character). World isn't all black and white. Negative and positive perfectly mix ;)
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Kelsey-Kat Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012
I'm not talking about fan art, I'm talking about the effect it has on the actual artist and their work. Like I said, constructive critisism is fine, but hating isn't going to change anything. Positive remarks, however, encourage productivity and growth.
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Nacht-Vico Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012
But you can hate something and still give a constructive critic. I agree with you, someone who just say "BAAW, IT SUCKS I HATE IT GO AND DIE" is stupid. But a positive one who say "OMG ITS CUTE I LOVE IT" is stupid and doesn't encourage anything as well. Or maybe it's just me. I just tend to think this is way more interesting to get a critic about what is wrong in your production than a "i love it" comment, which is useless.
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Kelsey-Kat Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012
Telling somebody their artwork is good often gives them confidence to keep drawing. Saying its terrible will cause them to stop and give up.

Saying you hate someone's work because of x, y, and z generally isn't going to get them to take you seriously or want to keep trying. Saying you think somebodies work is good and has potential, but that they could improve on x, y, and z will make encourage them to draw more and better the things that need to be changed.

It works the same way that reinforcement works much better and for much longer than punishment.
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Nacht-Vico Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012
Then those people will never be artist. When you're an artist, you get critics. And critics are supposed to help you to improve. And for that, they are supposed to point out what is wrong in the picture/text/photo/whatever.
Well, now, I guess it depends the personn, but I will not be motivated by some "OMG THAT'S SO COOL" comments. They are empty to me. Someone who takes time to critize my work, even if he is harsh, even if he says it's shit, has more value to me. But now, I'm not an artist. So I don't know ;)
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Dahila-Mockery Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You make yet another good point
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Planken Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
*applauds*
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Nacht-Vico Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012
Thaks you dude ;)
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Planken Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
No problem. Even tho i think you should made a bigger picture whit the description inside. Preferably whit a background picture of a middle finger pointed at anime.

Anyway. I liked the description so good i would want to favorise the description!
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Nacht-Vico Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012
Yeah, maybe. Anime isn't the only kind of fandom doing it, though, even if it's a majority of anime fantards, other fantards are bad as well ^^.
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Planken Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Then make the background a hand showing a middle finger to the word ''Fandom'' then.xD
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